BONUS - "The Money Pit" (1986) with Gerry D from "Totally Rad Christmas" Podcast

Attendees: Cl3m3nsR0manus (Gerry D), Timothy Williams

This transcript of the unedited full episode recording was computer generated and might contain errors.

Timothy Williams: If you've ever dabbled in DIY Home Improvement, you'll likely empathize with the calamities depicted in this often overlooked 80s flick. It's the classic tale of renovation Awry starring Tom Hanks and Shelley Long as a couple who snag a mansion at a bargain only to realize after the deal is done why it was priced. So low while the critics weren't overly impressed for countless fans. It remains a cherished early entry in Tom Hanks filmography. So watch out for collapsing stairs Airborne turkeys and weak trees as Jerry D and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I'm great.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love this movie. I mean is it the best movie? No, but it's amazing. A lot of fun movies. I'm excited to talk about it. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I discussed The Money Pit from 1986 on this special bonus episode of the 80s flick flashback podcast.

Timothy Williams: All right theme music all that fun stuff. So all right, welcome in everybody. So glad to have you on this special bonus forgotten flick episode of 80s flick flashback podcast,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: and we're talking about a great movie and with a great movie comes a great host and glad I have him back on the show and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Here it's still accounts as a ratty.

Timothy Williams: by himself this time I've been doing a lot of combos,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's just like you…

Timothy Williams: but this is just me and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: how they always do the technical Oscars the night before…

Timothy Williams: Jerry D. How you doing Jerry?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: where it's more for …

Timothy Williams: Yes, yes.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: for things that aren't major headlines …

Timothy Williams: No, yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: best actor or…

Timothy Williams: we're gonna get in we're gonna get it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: whatever. So it's not rattest Halloween movie…

Timothy Williams: Yeah Jose, we're gonna get into a lot of fun memories about this one.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but it is a radish,…

Timothy Williams: So of course Jerry D is from totally rad Christmas podcast,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: flashback to 80s flicks podcast out.

Timothy Williams: which I'm so honored to have won an award on his recent ratty's episode.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: So it only took four or five years, but I finally got in there and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: You still worked on the movie you still worked on it? Yeah.

Timothy Williams: it was a technical win, which I'm not really sure what I won but I won something so it counts.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It'll get there eventually.

Timothy Williams: Right, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Timothy Williams: There you go. Yeah that's equivalent to the second to the assistant of the Director of Photography award. No skin. that's a guy recognition and it's all about. So yeah, I'm still waiting for my trophy in the mail, but it's all good.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: This was back in the 80s.

Timothy Williams: eventually All…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: We didn't see it in the theaters.

Timothy Williams: Jerry, let's Jump Right In. When did you see The Money Pit for the first time?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I remember that but it was definitely a year afterwards because it was on you rented and…

Timothy Williams: yeah. Okay.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I specifically remember we went to this little place called movie land video. It was right by Mr. Gatti's and…

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Mr. Getty's Pizza. I don't know if you guys have them so we ate a Mr. Gatti's Pizza which is like all you can eat pizza buffet. It was great and then we went to Movie Land video and…

Timothy Williams: No.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: we would always rent movies and maybe a couple of video games. So in 87, I think it's when we actually got our Nintendo and…

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so we would have rented whatever game was out there. But I do remember we rented this movie and my parents watched it first because I had to make sure it was okay,

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Even though they didn't do that for all of I don't know but whatever so they watched it and…

Timothy Williams: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then the next night we watched it. So it was a Saturday night and we were just laughing the whole time there's a bunch of sight gags. I mean, it's lap Stick Comedy. There's some of the other jokes that we didn't get but it was so much fun.

Timothy Williams: Yes tons.

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Cl3m3nsR0manus: And…

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then they showed it on all the time so we watched all the time. And so yeah,…

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I was definitely around 87 probably when I saw it.

Timothy Williams: yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I was trying to remember I have a vivid memory of watching this on VHS with a group of friends of mine on a Friday night. …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: it's a weekend. We're sleeping over, the parents I think is a group of us a teenagers and the parents were gone out.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: So we're better in numbers. We'll just stay at home eat hot dogs and popcorn and watch movies, but I think we went to see this at a dollar theater when we lived in Texas.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Timothy Williams: I lived in El Paso, Texas for about six months and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: cool

Timothy Williams: and that was 86 that's about the right time. So I think what we saw this in the theater first and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: nice

Timothy Williams: then when it came on videos, I was like, I can't wait to watch it again because I loved it so much seeing the theater and I remember This is my friend Jason and Jeremy Prescott. It was three brothers Jason and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right right there. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Re my age. Jason was I think a year too older than me. Jeremy was a year. So it was like the three of us, I was writing between the two of them and we were at their house. and I remember Jason laughing so hard and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: Tears rolling down his face and falling out of the chair. which made me laugh even harder with watching his reaction to it. So that's probably most vivid memory of watching this movie is watching it with Jason and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's a good one.

Timothy Williams: Jeremy and him just completely losing and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And Tom Hanks gives the weirdest laugh ever.

Timothy Williams: I think it was The part when the tub Foster, we'll talk about favorite scenes. But when it's up Paul's through that he lost all control like that point.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, so I get why you would crack up with that. That's

Timothy Williams: He was just the weirdest laugh ever. Yeah, yeah. …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: yeah, and we're thinking about we were the perfect age for that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: I mean, Middle School, that age for the site gags and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Exactly, like…

Timothy Williams: not really thinking a lot about logic or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: who cares about plot…

Timothy Williams: people making right decisions.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: if it's funny we're gonna laugh.

Timothy Williams: It's all for comedy and we're there for it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So I rewatched it last week,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah. exactly. So how long has it been…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so it's been a week. But this is one that and…

Timothy Williams: since you've watched it for the podcast?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I have very fond memories of this because when my wife and…

Timothy Williams: Okay.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: were first starting to date. So we'd gone to see a couple of movies here and there we went to dinner a couple of times but we decided to make dinner was a Friday night. She was exhausted. I was like, let me just make you dinner and just come over we'll watch a movie and whatever so I bite her over and I had a bunch of DVDs because this was

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 17 years ago or whatever so I still had physical media and I had a bunch of DVDs but nothing that really was like her taste.

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: They were all sci-fi fantasy comic book and so I did have the money pit though on DVD. So we put it on and ever since then it's been one of our favorite movies to watch together and we just laughed so we watch it not every year…

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but every other year sometimes, we'll watch it two times a year,…

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but there was a period where we had it like a dvr'd and we were watching fall asleep every night,…

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: we'd fall asleep to it. So I've watched it a lot but for the show I watched the last week.

Timothy Williams: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, it had been a while. I had bought it was on TV probably when the last two years.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So good.

Timothy Williams: I don't even know which on cable with commercials or whatever, but I remember I think my wife was actually watching it and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Mm-hmm

Timothy Williams: she just had the TV on she was in and out of the bedroom and I had gone in there to get something and it was the part where he's going out to get water and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: nice.

Timothy Williams: of course he falls to the hole and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: that whole part of the outside falling apart,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, those are all great movies.

Timothy Williams: which I go and swim outside. That is my favorite scene that is the epitome of the scenes and I stopped. I was like I have to stop and watch this whole portion of the movie before the commercial I stood in my bedroom with the TV on it just watched it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I got to yeah.

Timothy Williams: But to watch it all the way through it's been several years. it probably came on or it was able to stream or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: No, it's real short. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: was on one of the cable channels, probably 10 or 15 years ago, and I watched it but I was able to get a Three DVD combo of Tom Hanks movies. I think it's like The Burbs is The Burbs Dragnet and Money Pit. I'm like, you can't go wrong with that for 12 bucks. So

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Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: As a homeowner now,…

Timothy Williams: so when I got home tonight I needed to watch it again and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: there's some things a hit a little bit differently, Or you're just like man.

Timothy Williams: more if it's like you own this movie. I'm like you say that that's a weird thing like I own a lot of movies,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: All right that hurts.

Timothy Williams: but I think she didn't realize that it was an old copy like you thought maybe I had a digital copy of it,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: When you see the stairs just fall or the water I mean, it's just like okay that

Timothy Williams: but I was like no I'm pulling out the DVD. I'm putting the Xbox and this is what I'm gonna watch for the next hour because it's not long,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Exactly exactly.

Timothy Williams: it's like an hour and…

Timothy Williams: 35 minutes, so it doesn't take up a whole lot of time so…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: exactly …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's thousands right there. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: but yeah always an enjoyable watch I don't laugh at it as hard as I used to but they're still scenes that I just make me smile and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, I guess things are different back then. That's crazy. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I just enjoy it for what it is and just yeah. All right, right.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah, we're just laughing as adults were like the calculator is going on in our head how much is this gonna cost? what do you Where are you getting this money from Yeah, right. You didn't get insurance with this house. What kind of idiot are you

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, I didn't know that either. I was reading that too.

Timothy Williams: but Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's crazy that it makes me want to go back and…

Timothy Williams: yeah. All right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: watch that…

Timothy Williams: Let's jump in the story origin of pre-production.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because you…

Timothy Williams: And so this is a forgotten 80s flaking as I was telling Jerry before we started it wasn't a whole lot of behind the scenes that I could find on this.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's such a beloved classic I guess but I'd never seen it. my mom loves this movie. It's called my two wives…

Timothy Williams: So there's not a whole lot of production that I can really give…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: which I think it's all so Carrie Grant and…

Timothy Williams: but this is what I got. what I did not know until dude in the podcast that this is a remake of a movie from the 1940s.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Myrna Loy and so I know that their chemistry as a Duo is really good.

Timothy Williams: It was based on HC Potters,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So I kind of want to check it out,…

Timothy Williams: Mr. Blandings builds his dream house starring Cary Grant and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but Yeah, I didn't know that that's crazy.

Timothy Williams: Myrna Loy, the original film holds the number 72 spot on afi's 100 years 100 laughs list, so that was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah me either.

Timothy Williams: Okay.

Timothy Williams: Okay. Mm-hmm

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah. So here's the film synopsis of Mr. Blanding's builds his dream house so you can get some of the comparisons so it came out in 1948 when advertising executive Jim blandings played by Cary Grant discovers.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I guess so. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: His wife's played by Myrna Lloyd's Plan to redecorate their New York apartment. He counters with a proposal that they moved to Connecticut. She agrees and the two or soon conned into buying a house that turns out to be a complete nightmare construction deals repair bills accumulate quickly and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right Right central heating is probably a completely new to them.

Timothy Williams: Jim worries that their future hangs in the balance…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: man.

Timothy Williams: unless they can come up with a new catchy jingle that will sell ham H A M. So obviously ham was a big seller in 1948.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Timothy Williams: He needed a new jingle. But yeah, pretty similar. I mean I can see how they took some,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right. Yes Spielberg.

Timothy Williams: creative licensing making it a little more modern,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I mean anything he touched back then was like gold. So, yeah for sure great.

Timothy Williams: but I would love to see the things that go wrong with that house in 1948 how different it is in 1986, so

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: right

Timothy Williams: Alright, and so the Dilemma of the producers and one thing I didn't mention I thought I had it in the intro, but this was actually produced by Steven Spielberg. So it's the first credit that pops up. It's like Steven Spielberg presents. And so that might have been one of the draws for us one to go. See it was as a Steven Spielberg movie. Yeah. Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Wow.

Timothy Williams: So yeah, so he just produced it. They didn't do much, beyond that. But the other producers were Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy, which are pretty well known names that we know today. So the biggest dilemma was finding someone who would consent to having their beautiful home partially destroyed.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Might as well you're gonna bribe someone do it with a cameo exactly…

Timothy Williams: They located the Ritter mansion on the North Shore of Long Island the house belong to the family for…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but you talked about the Night Rider I think it'll be awesome to have Night Rider meet to be in this movie.

Timothy Williams: which the Rider. I had to read it twice night Ritter new Syndicate had been named as the houses on the market at the time. They consented to have several key sequences shot there during the course of filming the house is virtually destroyed and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, even I don't know about that. Yeah.

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Timothy Williams: then rebuilt from scratch during the filming. Ritter was reportedly stunned at the side of the old family home in a semi demolish state but was convinced by director Richard Benjamin to appear in one of the movies final sequences.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: Once the place was restored to original condition. So, yeah.

Timothy Williams: a cameo

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Westworld, yeah, that's what I knew from

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I don't know if the Hasselhoff could save him on this one will be pretty rough.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: pretty rough So, yes, like I said produced by Steven Spielberg director by Richard Benjamin, which I recognize that name.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Wow.

Timothy Williams: And so I did a little research on him and I could picture his face. I've seen him in something cuz I know you as an actor as well. So he had started a number of well-known films including goodbye Columbus and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Timothy Williams: 69 Catch 22 and 70 Port noise complaint in 72.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, some of those are really enjoy.

Timothy Williams: He was in Westworld in 73.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: My stepmother and…

Timothy Williams: Yep, and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: is an alien is Bonkers next level…

Timothy Williams: the Sunshine boys and 75. Yeah. So he was nominated for an Emmy Award for best actor in a comedy series for his performances and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but I like it mermaids with share. I think it was really good and…

Timothy Williams: he and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Winona writer.

Timothy Williams: she opposite his wife at the time Paula Prentice.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's Yeah, and I like milk money as well.

Timothy Williams: Off after directing for television his first film as a director was the 1982 Comedy My Favorite Year starring Peter O'Toole…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's another.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Ed Harris and Melanie Griffith, that's right. Yeah. I was like Don Johnson's ex he Yeah.

Timothy Williams: who was nominated for an Oscar for best actor his other films the director include City Heat and 84. My stepmother is an alien and 88 mermaids and 90 made in America 93 milk money in 94 Mrs. Winter born in 96 and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: great same All the time like yeah.

Timothy Williams: Marcy X in 2003. so

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Might as Yeah, but out of all those one that I remembered or…

Timothy Williams: yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: recognize his name for was Westworld as well.

Timothy Williams: Share and why don't a writer? Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: that was a fun movie as a Ed Harris and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right, right, even the No. I know.

Timothy Williams: Melanie Griffith Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: The originals is like classic right you…

Timothy Williams: I was trying to think of her name first. But yeah, that was one. Yeah, exactly.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but I know that a lot of people like the new one.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, it's a 90s movie so I can't really going…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I haven't seen it. Honestly. I haven't even checked it out and

Timothy Williams: but I remember milk money being one that I saw when it came on cable and they ran it all the time so I think of eventually I just recorded it off the cable so I could watch whenever I wanted but it was just one that was fun to watch. Yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Classic Sci-fi 70s, of course, they remade it for a TV show on HBO, which wasn't as good. But yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I got to yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: yeah, I would say the first season was good because It was interesting it held my attention and then just second season got a little weird and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yes.

Timothy Williams: it was almost like we don't know what to do now. So let's just make up a bunch of stuff that doesn't really make sense, trying to bring in new characters and trying to keep the story going and I don't think I watched the last season I watched the first two and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love that one.

Timothy Williams: part of season three and I think I gave up at that point, but it was But Alright. let's jump into casting. there's not I mean,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: yeah, I don't have a lot of people there's only three main characters and everybody else is more like Side characters and I have a few blinking you'll miss them you recognize them another things also talk about them.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: But let's talk about the man of the hour Mr. Tom Hanks as Walter Fielding Jr. So Hank's made his break through with leading roles in a series of comedy films or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't think you've seen that one.

Timothy Williams: received positive media attention such as Splash and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay.

Timothy Williams: 84 big and 88 A League of Their Own in One of my favorites.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah at this point.

Timothy Williams: He won two consecutive academy awards for best actor for starring in Philadelphia in 1993 and the title character of Forrest Gump in 94.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Mm- agreed.

Timothy Williams: He collaborated with film director Steven Spielberg on five films Saving Private Ryan in 98 Catch Me If You Can in the terminal in 2004 Bridge of spies and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah hard agree.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, that's the crazy thing. He really pivoted hard around the early 90s. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: 2015 and the post in 2017 as well as the miniseries Band of Brothers and the Pacific and masters of the air that just came out this year. it's like yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: To lighten it up. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I was like I can. Yeah, I think it's on Apple TV that one just like it a couple months ago. I haven't watched it either. Yes. I have a whole list of movies.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He seems like a cool guy. Agreed yeah.

Timothy Williams: He's in if you don't know who Tom Hanks is there's other podcasts that can help you more than we can but Probably if not the greatest actors of Our Generation. Yeah, it's in a and then of course, 80s, it was all comedy like that was his stick. and then he …

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Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, and one of his first roles was in the D&D movie.

Timothy Williams: But he's able to do both like anything even the serious stuff.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Monsters and amazes. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: He has a way to Infuse comedy in it and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, It's so hard watch. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: make it work where It doesn't feel forced. it's just his way of doing it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's right.

Timothy Williams: And even…

Timothy Williams: though I've never been personally he just seems like one of the nicest and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, it's something like that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, it's not great.

Timothy Williams: kindest Human beings you'd ever meet so…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And it's a slog to get through and…

Timothy Williams: which is probably…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I was super jazzed for it.

Timothy Williams: why I'm such a big fan and this is funny…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I saw it. I was like, okay.

Timothy Williams: because this is only the second Tom Hanks movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But no no,…

Timothy Williams: I've done on the podcast…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I…

Timothy Williams: when you think of my favorite actors,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's like America's dad right yeah, everybody loves Tom Hanks.

Timothy Williams: he's at one of the top of my list but just haven't covered that many. I've got to do splash. Of course. He had a lot of bombs in the 80s. I mean, It's coming who's

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That is hard because I…

Timothy Williams: Yeah monsters and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he was also the voice of Woody and…

Timothy Williams: mazes are amazing.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Toy Story and…

Timothy Williams: Yes. Only that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: those are fantastic.

Timothy Williams: Yeah haven't seen it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So I like them in that thing you do as well.

Timothy Williams: But yeah, I see us I've seen the cover they have his face plaster on firm like yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: man It well in the 80s.

Timothy Williams: I have a feeling he's in this for five minutes and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's probably this movie.

Timothy Williams: everything else is gonna be pretty terrible. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Which is strange to say because I love Splash as well.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But I think overall in general it might be A League of Their Own I think. Yeah, yeah…

Timothy Williams: For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because I love Philadelphia just really heavy.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's a incredible movie…

Timothy Williams: Of…

Timothy Williams: So yeah, so love Tom Hanks.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but it's like man.

Timothy Williams: Favorite Tom Hanks movie doesn't have to be 80s,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, and Forrest Gump is also really good,…

Timothy Williams: which ones your favorite.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but I don't know I have to watch that and…

Timothy Williams: I know it's tough.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I have to take a break between a lot,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: between watches that so it might be A League of Their Own. I am it's great.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yes. …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love it.

Timothy Williams: I love that one.

Timothy Williams: Okay. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, it's a…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's right. Yeah. No,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, it's

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think you're right. Yeah big.

Timothy Williams: yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's a really good.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, that you're right. It's hard to pick I would Forrest Gump would probably be the one that I would immediately think of…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you got males?

Timothy Williams: because I was such a fan of that when it came out and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: another sleeplessness, Seattle Yeah.

Timothy Williams: really once again balancing comedy and drama and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That could be your favorite.

Timothy Williams: that's done and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's okay. Yeah. No,…

Timothy Williams: Robert some Mecca the direction that he does with the technology and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: You're right. I think for 80s it would be big for me.

Timothy Williams: stuff at the time is great for 80s movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So that's another one.

Timothy Williams: I think big wins out for me once again kind of that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I've seen a million times and it's just You…

Timothy Williams: Yeah thinking about…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it's perfect. So

Timothy Williams: how he can yeah how once again the comedy and still being serious and Penny Marshall was great directing that…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Mm-hmm

Timothy Williams: but yeah, I mean, I'm Saving Private Ryan is one of my all-time favorite movies. So I know I'm gonna list The Green Mile You've Got Mail.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah that just so it's like none of them are wrong, Yeah. He's like you just name one. It's like you get that could be your number one. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: so yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah great Showcase of his talent for All…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Me too. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Let's talk about Shelley Long as Anna Crowley in 1982. She played the character Diane Chambers and the new NBC comedy series.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Maybe you've heard of Cheers to play the part for five years Wing in winning an Emmy for Outstanding lead actress and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Carol Brady, yeah

Timothy Williams: a comedy series in 1983 on our summer Hiatus from cheers. She made feature films receiving a Golden Globe nomination as best actress for any reconcilable differences in 84 and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: 87. She starred in the hit comedy Outrageous Fortune with Bette Midler. She soon after left cheers after five years to embark on a film career. However her films.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: No it yeah true.

Timothy Williams: Hello again 87 and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Beverly Hills is another one.

Timothy Williams: Troop Beverly Hills 89.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I remember I had a sleepover at my friend's house.

Timothy Williams: We're not hits and I love Troop Beverly Hills.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: My friend Kevin Whitworth and…

Timothy Williams: She returned a television appearing in the final episode of cheers and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: his sister had a friend that was sleeping over to and they like the sisters and…

Timothy Williams: 93. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the mom wanted to watch Troop Beverly Hills.

Timothy Williams: She really didn't do much after that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: They rented it and…

Timothy Williams: I mean, I remember her In The Brady Bunch movies.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Kevin and I didn't but we're like, it's a movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Let's watch a movie. So we just said down and we loved it afterwards just like that was fun.

Timothy Williams: Yeah this Carol Brady when she was great in that…

Timothy Williams: but that's About really all she did after that, but she was great. I mean She kind of played that same kind of character.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, that's definitely out of all of the things she's done.

Timothy Williams: I think that's probably what hurt her the most she was,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's definitely up there.

Timothy Williams: she's pretty much playing Diane in this and she wasn't Outrageous Fortune and the other movies But yeah. She was good.

Timothy Williams: mmm

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Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: And all right. Yeah, yeah. yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right can you imagine I mean I get it this was like before he blew up…

Timothy Williams: Mmm Yeah So a few things about this long recall that although the director Richard Benjamin was so insistent on that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because big was kind of like the thing that really pushed his career forward.

Timothy Williams: She after meeting with her at his home. The filmmaker also started to have doubts about whether she should do it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: She was pregnant at the beginning so they had to take a Hiatus for have the baby…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: The cement right exactly until big and…

Timothy Williams: but she decided to do the film with an actor.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but nowadays,…

Timothy Williams: She wasn't familiar with so she didn't really know…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it's unheard of you don't know Tom Hanks,…

Timothy Williams: who Tom Hanks was she admitted.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but back then I mean I get it like,…

Timothy Williams: This is her quote when I finally decided that I want to do this movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he was in bachelor party just these crazy.

Timothy Williams: I didn't know anything about Tom Hanks. I think I'd seen him in Bosom Buddies,…

Timothy Williams: but I might have watched that after I knew I was going to work with him.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah, Bosom Buddies,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but It's kind of like when Bruce Willis did die hard,…

Timothy Williams: I didn't know anything about him, but everybody said that he was great.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you…

Timothy Williams: So I thought okay,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it's like people knew him from Moonlighting.

Timothy Williams: I'll do it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's about but Die Hard was the thing to kind of catapulted his career forward. that's kind of big really with Tom Hanks.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I mean Splash was big…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But can you imagine being like,…

Timothy Williams: but it was like, that was his first kind of big movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: man, who's this tanks guy?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I gotta be gonna act with But that she could say she worked with Tom Hanks,…

Timothy Williams: he really yes,…

Timothy Williams: so he hadn't really had a second big movie to really kind of get him out there, but Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: which is super cool. right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Definitely No it wouldn't have worked. she hasn't that sultry seductiveness.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I mean she can be …

Timothy Williams: Yeah. volunteers

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you see in Romancing the Stone. She's also a naive. she can play that…

Timothy Williams: Bosom Buddies, yeah

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but It's not as gentle as I think Shelley long has more of a comedic Edge for sure.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah. And that was it. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But she's able to I think gel with Tom Hanks better.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I definitely don't see Kathleen Turner doing it. especially after seeing her with Michael Douglas she needs a Michael Douglas character to play off of

Timothy Williams: Yeah. So I didn't realize this Kathleen Turner was considered for the lead role as well at the time.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right What was that one Undercover Blues, do you remember that one with?

Timothy Williams: She was in a dispute with 20th Century Fox because she did not want to do the sequel to her dancing the stone Jewel of the Nile that came out 85 and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Who is it? Dennis? No. Yeah, Dennis Quaid.

Timothy Williams: tried to use the offer of playing in this movie as a negotiating Ploy some thought at the time.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, it's another one. That's not great. But we watched it again a…

Timothy Williams: It was simply an attempt to get paid more money.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because I showed it a lot. it's a good old HBO shows the same movies every month and

Timothy Williams: So who knows if it's true or not, but Yeah, I don't see the chemistry between Kathleen Turner and Tom Hanks, though. That wouldn't have worked.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: at night, right? right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So a lot of these I've seen a bazillion times and…

Timothy Williams: 

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that was one of them but definitely hurt like she was playing funny then but even Dennis Quaid still kind of had that Gruff more manly Edge that you…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Michael Douglas and Tom Hanks doesn't Right, right.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yes.

Timothy Williams: totally different comedy style and totally different chemistry for sure.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Of course.

Timothy Williams: that was Dennis Quaid. Yeah. I was trying to think. I haven't seen that one in a long time. remember that one so

Timothy Williams: hello on cable. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: if it was PG and 13 because they only run the art of the only ran rated movies at night.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: So if it was 13 then we're just gonna keep that rolling during the day. So

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: One of his best lines is when he talks about she left me too, but I'll get over it because I'm shallow,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, Tom Hanks.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: and selfish, self-centered, it's and…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. Doesn't yet not at this Anyway,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he played that character so well, but then you look at die hard,…

Timothy Williams: 

Timothy Williams: yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: and when his brother died and he's just so angry. He's like I want blood and you feel that so even…

Timothy Williams: All right moving right along we got Alexander good enough as Max…

Timothy Williams: which is great. He was a russian-american ballet dancer and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: though he was more of a ballet dancer. I mean he wasn't too shabby of an actor either. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: film actor in 1979. He defected to the United States while continuing to dance. He also began working as a supporting actor in Hollywood films. He had prominent roles and other films such as witness and 85 which I love and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: wow.

Timothy Williams: die hard and 88, which I also love. And I don't want to talk about people's debts,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: but I didn't really remember how he passed away, but he actually was a heavy alcoholic and he was found unresponsive. He death was determined to be due to complications for hepatitis secondary to Chronic alcoholism,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Probably yeah. She's

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Timothy Williams: which was really sad to hear but he's so good in this I mean just Chewing up the scenery just being the best obnoxious ex that there could be,

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yes.

Timothy Williams: right Mm-hmm.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I hope you choke. So good.

Timothy Williams: No, it was really good and I didn't realize that he danced with. Baryshnikov Michael,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: The funny thing is I have played in several bands and…

Timothy Williams: yeah, they had if I was reading the deeper research that I needed for this podcast,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: orchestras where the directors were very much like that and…

Timothy Williams: but they got into a big dispute.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you're just like, okay come…

Timothy Williams: I think we're still cough was like one of his teachers and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you're not like Leonard Bernstein or…

Timothy Williams: they had a falling…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: leopolds the cows ski or…

Timothy Williams: which was one of the reasons why he defected I'm like what didn't burst took off the fact shortly after that,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: anything like calm down guy, you…

Timothy Williams: so, I don't know.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. No,…

Timothy Williams: Man, I was gonna read one of my favorite lines from Walter.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love his character Max. I love.

Timothy Williams: Let me see if I can find it. I should have wrote it down.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: How at the end when he's conducting the orchestra for their wedding and…

Timothy Williams: It's yes after he comes back. you…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: one of the singers from the band,…

Timothy Williams: I love how he walks into The theater or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: which I think was played by White Lion one of the singers from the band.

Timothy Williams: the auditorium and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He looks over and…

Timothy Williams: the orchestra's ready.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: she makes eyes at him and…

Timothy Williams: He just takes off his jacket.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's kind of like hey It's great.

Timothy Williams: He puts his bag down. He walked right up. He's like, okay, we're starting from the top and they play through the whole thing. And this is line the Union forces me to allow you to go to lunch in spite of the way you played those of you with Consciousness will not be able to eat and those whose Consciousness is what much match your talents go stuffs.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: I hope you choke

Timothy Williams: No just delivered so well by him,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, it was nice.

Timothy Williams: that was one of the great scenes for sure.

Timothy Williams: yeah.

Timothy Williams: 

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah. Yeah. He was so good.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Coon that's what I know from.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, so sadly he's gone on…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't think I ever saw that one but I remember cocoon.

Timothy Williams: but he was good just and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. but she's No,…

Timothy Williams: witness was a very serious role Die Hard a serious role to see him in a comedy just doing so well just shows…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: just gonna say she's another funny I mean, it's just a bit part, right? She just appears getting and…

Timothy Williams: how talented he really was so

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then it's very end kind of bookending the whole story. But when you…

Timothy Williams: All right, and then the rest of these are all very much very small roles,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he was Hitler's pool boy and just when he mentions your pool is the best kept pool I've ever seen he's just

Timothy Williams: kind of they're for a few minutes and that's it. But personal list is Maureen Stapleton as Estelle…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: If you're timing is good her comedic timing was just great.

Timothy Williams: who sells them the house, she was hilarious. I knew I'd seen her other things but this is probably the thing I remember the most from but she was nominated for the Academy Award for best supporting actress for lonely hearts and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: they don't turn the lights on. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: 58 airport in 1970 and Interiors in 78 before winning for her performance as Emma Goldman and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: reds 1981. She was nominated for five Golden Globe awards winning for airport other notable film roles include Bye Bye Birdie in 63,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Did you sink in yeah.

Timothy Williams: which probably where I saw her in Plaza sweet and 71 the fan and 81 cocoon and 85. Yeah and nuts and 87 Wentz Barbara Streisand movie. So yeah. Yeah. I keep thinking that go ahead.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But it's also like how do they not turn on the lights? How do they I'd like, I mean I get it. She's telling you a story about the blood sucking lawyers or…

Timothy Williams: Mm- yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: whatever. but also you're gonna buy the house make sure things work.

Timothy Williams: mmm right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's kind of on there. she's yeah.

Timothy Williams: Right. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, right. What did I say?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: What did I say? Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: Yeah, the scene I love is when she's sitting on the edge of the bed, which once again after you've seen the movie to go back and watch and see how chooses the candle.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: So they don't turn the lights on he tells them to use the bathroom downstairs because her personal items are still in the one upstairs and then she doesn't sit on the She sits on the edge of the bed so you don't realize it's sunken in the middle,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. one of the

Timothy Williams: but she's sitting there with her drink and she starts talking and then Charlie Long's off looking at something else and then she starts to lean over like the drink is gonna spill every time I see that I'm like,…

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Cl3m3nsR0manus: Very sorry. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I think that they drink is gonna spill and she saves her father. Yeah that scene always makes me laugh. She's just so good in that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Mm-hmm

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right, right. at Tony on The Simpsons

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right Yeah, there's a lot of bit part guys, like character actors, really?

Timothy Williams: Right right but that was smart because that's what he's doing. he's downstairs. He's checking the water is hot the toilets working. There's no leaks. But yeah, they don't think about turn on the lights. she answers the door before they get there.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: So they don't use the doorbell, it's like all those things that later …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Coming to America

Timothy Williams: why didn't they do this why man yeah, but She was great in that little small part. and then Joe Montana has fifth building in this movie and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay.

Timothy Williams: he's literally in it for less than two and a half minutes he comes in at the beginning and he's played every time I see why is this not John lovetts because he's playing John love it's in this scene like he's just swarmy and offensive but yeah, Joe Montana we talked about on Three Amigos and 86. He was in The Godfather Part 3.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Timothy Williams: Forget Paris the 95, of course now he's on or…

Timothy Williams: he was in the last season of Criminal Minds more recently,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay, it's another one.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love. All those Police Academy movies are so terrible,…

Timothy Williams: but he's been in a ton of stuff. But yeah, he's Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but I love them.

Timothy Williams: Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: They're amazing.

Timothy Williams: yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah,

Timothy Williams: just another great Cameo. So the rest of these are all people that I would say.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: I saw them was like I know who that is, but I couldn't, think of their names off the top and some I could but Frank.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. so one of them was one of the construction workers Frankie Faison as James,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, right, right.

Timothy Williams: he's the one that when she opens up the medicine cabinet and he's like, are you we look for alcohol here, you're almost out of birth control pills, So you'll know him from coming to America. he was the landlord. He's also in do the right thing. He was on in White Chicks.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: He's been a bunch of TV shows. he was most recently on the rookie feds. he was in that but yeah, I recognized him pretty much immediately. this is one that I recognized him in the movie, but I couldn't think of what he was in but it's Brian Becker who's the guy playing ping pong in the house before the or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: you still space and you're like, yeah.

Timothy Williams: the apartment before they have to move out and he's best known for his role as a rat Radner in fast time to Ridgemont High was like I recognize his face, but I couldn't go to it's from and so that was him. and he was also in Police Academy for Citizens on patrol as Arnie, so Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yes. Yes. Yeah. I've been going back and rewatching them. I started with the first one. I watched two three. I think I've watched four.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Timothy Williams: So I think I'm at five now, but I'll watch one or two a day and then I take a break and then I'd wait a couple days because you can't watch them all back to back because all the repetition just becomes overload. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: so another one I recognized him immediately and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yes, yes. I remember that one. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: this is when the scene where

Timothy Williams: Tom Hanks is trying to get the water and when he's falling through the scaffolding outside the house. And he's the guy that's not he looks like they're listening to the radio and he's like using his hands like playing the beat behind the black guy that's looking at…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Banshee I think too.

Timothy Williams: but that's Michael Jeter as I played.

Timothy Williams: His name is Arnie in the credits, but he's most known for the fisher king in 91.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Mm- Yakov.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Smirnoff is another one. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: He was also in The Green Mile and 99. He's been in Sister Act 2 back in the habit Air Bud. He was in Jurassic Park 3. again one of those that guys that you see him but very young role.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah. No,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Because first I was like is that him and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't see any other.

Timothy Williams: then he turned his head face and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: I was like, they did a close up. I think that That's Michael Jeter.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I'll not like you anymore.

Timothy Williams: And then three that I won't go into their filmographies,…

Timothy Williams: but the paramedic who assists the real estate agent in the ambulance I couldn't tell by his face when he was talking. I was like, I know that voice, is that that's a Weell Pierce. And if you don't know Wendell Pierce says, he's been like a ton of shows like suits.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay good.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Timothy Williams: He's most recently being in the Jack Ryan Show on Amazon. He's much heavier set now but he has a very distinctive deep voice. But yeah,…

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Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah you yeah,…

Timothy Williams: so when I saw that was window Pierce I had no idea.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so Tom Hanks, I think his job is he's like a CPA.

Timothy Williams: And then two of the handyman or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: For I've a big time CP inherited all his dad's clients and…

Timothy Williams: repairmen Jake Steinfeld also known as Body by Jake if you knew that back in the 80s.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I guess his dad was like some sort of tax person.

Timothy Williams: So that's him and then the guy he's talking to when they're talking about when Tom Hanks wakes up on the ping pong table after the big fight.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: He's talking to Nestor Serrano who's one…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right, right.

Timothy Williams: that was his film debut as well. and that's just Serrano's been I think he was in one of the Law and Order shows I think. Yeah. so

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Are you paying back for? just

Timothy Williams: Yes, I didn't put him down because he's under one really short appearances. But I really wanted to find out I don't think he did anything else…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But they're your sister and your brother.

Timothy Williams: but the kid that played Benny I thought was so funny little teenager,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So good. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: but I couldn't find out I didn't see that. He had really done anything else. But that's one of the funniest scenes.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I'm sorry.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah, but yeah. Because that you see me, are you done 90 to talk to…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the cheap.

Timothy Williams: And then he puts this cigarette out. He's like you're gonna do that young my mother clean that up and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Cheap it's cheap something.

Timothy Williams: I guess his Handler whatever goes and picks it up. It's like a mom. who's in a made outfit?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Man now,…

Timothy Williams: I wish I had a hundred of them.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't remember.

Timothy Williams: He's like, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Hold on and I wrote it down here. I just got to find it in my notes.

Timothy Williams: But yeah, that's just the perfect, kid, star when you say I guess he was like a recording artist.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Because they wanted to change their names to Meryl Streep. where is it? Okay, I can tell you she won't be.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I guess what I thought it was a cheap girls. I can't find it in my notes Here.

Timothy Williams: Again, yeah, I think an entertainment lawyer. So they know the entertainment law for the taxes and all that kind of stuff. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I love it when he's trying to pay the guy for the band and he's like, my I think would be half of what my dad owes you was like. man, they're used to people stealing from them. You take the money you're gonna insult them. It's why are you doing this because I like you better than them. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: it's those little bits that are really funny just a little side conversations in the I know we're all over scenes,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: they're just in drag, but they have these thick beards and…

Timothy Williams: but it doesn't matter we're moving that way anyway,…

Timothy Williams: but then you're good, but all the cross dressers the band, was it a cheap chicks or no? It's a bad chicks.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's great. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I mean there's that one guy. I think it's like Philip Bosco I think is his name.

Timothy Williams: No, It's chick something chicks. man.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He's one of those guys you see him all the time and you're like, I know him was he in?

Timothy Williams: Okay.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: What's that one with?

Timothy Williams: Into Meryl Streep. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: No, where is it? he was in milk money as well.

Timothy Williams: Maybe she'll be flattered. No, I'm pretty sure she won't be and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I was thinking he was in that one with.

Timothy Williams: still and you'll have a huge lawsuit.

Timothy Williams: What about Debbie Reynolds?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: With what's her name now,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it's not it though. that's Hector release on though. I don't know but if you see him, you'll know him. He's one of those guys you're like, it's that guy, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Okay, let me see if I can find it.

Timothy Williams: it's gonna matter at this point.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Let's see. There's one that was standing up.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I cannot remember for the life of me

Timothy Williams: If I hadn't try to talk about it, I remember.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I remember him from FX2.

Timothy Williams: Is it cheap girls not cheap? maybe that is.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. It is cheap girls. Yeah, because the leader of the crossdressing group cheap girls is Leslie West one of the great hard rock guitarist of the 70s from the band Mountain,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's also would detective. he becomes a crooked cop but he was an fx too. I love those FX movies.

Timothy Williams: which is a band.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: They're just Yeah,…

Timothy Williams: I've never heard of but anyway, yeah. Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: just pure actually.

Timothy Williams: yeah, but Steve girls, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah cheap girls. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I definitely don't hold up, but I've seen so many times.

Timothy Williams: So funny.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love it. Yeah, Brian,…

Timothy Williams: so funny

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Denny and Brian Brown. Yeah, perfect casting.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Josh must

Timothy Williams: Yeah. But just let you know the clientele he has It's funny. All right, anybody else in the cast that I I know I missed Yakov Smirnoff anybody else? I think I tried to try to cover the ones that were talking about.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: about the Archie can even look.

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Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay.

Timothy Williams: as the foreman

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I looked at him three years ago. You think they've improved with age but write the attack before I say I changed my mind.

Timothy Williams: yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: maybe that's why I looked so familiar. Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's it. Yeah. …

Timothy Williams: Okay.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think Josh must still was getting His real estate agent right his friend that has the heart attack.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, he was definitely familiar his voice. I know I've heard his voice and stuff me saying go back to the 80s

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I thought the running was helping. I can lift into those pictures. Because of the running…

Timothy Williams: He was in three minute a baby as the detective.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but he was in the City Slickers…

Timothy Williams: That's what I remembered him.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but Billy Madison.

Timothy Williams: Probably the most from

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, he's like one of the Ben & Jerry's knockoffs there.

Timothy Williams: Okay, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. I haven't watched this in a while. I need to date they pop up on some of the streaming services. I got to watch these little Brian Dennehy and

Timothy Williams: yeah.

Timothy Williams: Brian Brown, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, and then I guess John montagna's brother as the plumber. his name was Karma yeah, Carmine greedy. He was actually in The Godfather movies which didn't surprise me?

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Timothy Williams: And the kid that played Benny's name was William Lombardo. He was also in Punky Brewster which may be why I recognized and from that too. Yeah, but he didn't do a whole lot. He was He was in one episode of Webster or two episodes of Punky Brewster and that's pretty much his filmography and The Money Pit.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. At the heart attack multiple times. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I can literally a little bit of the yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He thinks into the floor? Yeah. Yes. He steps I guess they made one of a hole or…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, that's right City Slickers. Yep.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: something or they're old and more and there's a rug on top of it. He Steps in he just slowly sinking in and…

Timothy Williams: Mm- Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he gets stuck and…

Timothy Williams: it's like because he's barely in the movie and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so he misses an appointment with the inspector.

Timothy Williams: because you only really see him in those two scenes…

Timothy Williams: because everything else is this voice over his hands over the pictures of the houses and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: when his wife come home the permits right and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: when his wife comes home, or…

Timothy Williams: stuff. So I didn't pick up on that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: on that wife, but girlfriend and…

Timothy Williams: But yeah. Yeah City Slickers for sure.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's like help she's trying to Allowed and…

Timothy Williams: I remember him in that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he can't and he's really screaming like I'm down here.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, That makes sense.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: She's like I was just in there. Where are you? I don't have time for this and every time that's the very first thing I think of it's great.

Timothy Williams: man.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He just Walk through yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. That's right.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, so that's the first yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's another one. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Right, right. mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: The stairs. Yeah, and he's probably

Cl3m3nsR0manus: and he just Falls.

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay.

Timothy Williams: mmm yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I know talk about that's a regressive.

Timothy Williams: I agree with that. Alright anybody else in the cast?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I know I'm just drinking…

Timothy Williams: We want to jump into four. We jump into favorite scenes,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: or…

Timothy Williams: which I think we've probably already talked about already, but talk about again.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: when she's like making the turkey,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: this is kind of and he turns on a light and then you just see the fuse or…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I will let's talk iconic scenes with you.

Timothy Williams: If someone said to you money pit, what's the first scene that's gonna pop in your head.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the electric line just burning through just tiles popping up and luckily he's able to unplug the blender,…

Timothy Williams: Or sinks into the floor.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the TV just kind of explode.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah.

Timothy Williams: and through a rug over top of it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: The blend yeah, and yeah, it's great and…

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then the turkey flies out of the oven. he's all don't like the gas and she liked this fine,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah get the permits.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but it explodes and sends the turkey flying which crashing through windows and into a weird gross bucket and then just a little pops up

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Timothy Williams: Right, right. Mm-hmm.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that one I love the statue that's in the s. man as a kid. I thought that was the funniest thing ever.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, and then she tries to help him out and He's like after that fall,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: we get like that.

Timothy Williams: the same height. Yeah, so

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I think of that one.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Timothy Williams: Yeah for me, the iconic scene is probably the tub falling through when they're pouring…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. yeah, totally didn't get it.

Timothy Williams: though pouring the water in it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. That one that you mentioned at the scaffolding scene as well when just falling down and…

Timothy Williams: The other one is when the staircase falls apart. Yeah that Tony you're on my fingers.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the paint and he's just covered rags and…

Timothy Williams: And yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: all Yeah another great one.

Timothy Williams: and then she looks down on I like how he's trying to blow her a kiss, but you can tell his These guys hands all curled up and the next thing is like I would help you but someone stepped on all my fingers.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Know yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: Yes, yes.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Everything yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And that turns it up.

Timothy Williams: he Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: the blender melts.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, I really liked her chemistry with Max, is it supposed to be her ex-husband? He was a conductor he was with a violinist and…

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah. mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so used he doesn't really he is vain and…

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: self-centered and he doesn't really want her back but he kind of wants her back now that she's with someone else, and so he's trying to just they're back and…

Timothy Williams: Turkey's done. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: forth where he's trying to seduce her and she's like no, I love Walter and…

Timothy Williams: Yes, the little kid being yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's like stop saying that.

Timothy Williams: Yes, that was definitely a kid funny,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the

Timothy Williams: And he looks over it's like it keeps trying to it you inconsistent with the stream.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it's like we're trying to let go ahead sorry.

Timothy Williams: He's prostate trouble.

Timothy Williams: Never my head as a kid, but now. Not funny. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, putting my favorite.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he

Cl3m3nsR0manus: don't look he grabs it.

Timothy Williams: And I loved but I love that too because of the same time. She's partly to blame because she's unplugging the huge thing trying to find a plug to plug in the coffee maker.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, he did a great job with that role.

Timothy Williams: I think what you and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He really nailed it, you…

Timothy Williams: so she unplugs the band saw the …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but I mean those Let's see.

Timothy Williams: whatever. I'm the tool person,…

Timothy Williams: but the saw whatever and then

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Trying to…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because there's a bunch of just funny little bits here and…

Timothy Williams: The guy can't get it to work.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: there that I love…

Timothy Williams: And so then of course when he falls on the bean,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but yeah, but she opens up the medicine cabinet.

Timothy Williams: it sends the saw up top…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He's just

Timothy Williams: then she plugs it back in. Of course that caused. The next thing to fall is it's just like how well that was constructed of just a little pieces that make everything go and then man, it's just so funny.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: There's water right here. She's so excited that they have running water well and…

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: or when he's coming back in the cab.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Hey guys, you tested missiles here. That's already yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Of course. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: they said something like Two weeks.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, that's the other gag.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah, she's like you love you.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. that's…

Timothy Williams: I love Walter I'm saying that…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: who he's

Timothy Williams: what is it is Walter, how can you love Walters?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: not to

Timothy Williams: Not even musicians. There's a lot of the people world aren't yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah. I think I have to yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yes some great lines. I love the other line when he's No the other line and I'm gonna put this one up but just on top of the scene, but after you know, he realizes that she should be with Walter and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: no. the door

Timothy Williams: he's walking out in the guys dabbing with the paintbrushes like no Strokes up and down don't tickle paint or whatever. He says and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: the frame of it

Timothy Williams: don't smoke and it takes a drag and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: then throws it down. great.

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it rains.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Why didn't they get an inspector for this? I mean Guys,…

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Timothy Williams: What? Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: come on. do your due diligence,…

Timothy Williams: that was always one of my favorite scenes was that when he opened up?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: terrible or like Joe Montana's role you're right.

Timothy Williams: No, and then when she's like have you seen a wall? No, have you seen Mr. Fielding Fielding never heard of him Walter?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He wasn't in the movie very long. she calls a contractor and…

Timothy Williams: Yeah Walter and she's like, have you seen him?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he is in a position…

Timothy Williams: No, he went to get water and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: where when women usually call him.

Timothy Williams: he turns the faucet on the looking for just water right here,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Other things it's you.

Timothy Williams: yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Just thought she was looking wool.

Timothy Williams: Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so, first she gets really offended and…

Timothy Williams: yeah. Everybody that's the running joke.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Walter's about to beat him up basically and…

Timothy Williams: Is that what you guys doing? Just testing missiles? Yeah. And…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then he's like, you…

Timothy Williams: then of course the…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: someone called the Carpenter and…

Timothy Williams: how long this is gonna take two weeks.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And so he changes this too immediately and…

Timothy Williams: I think me my dad said that for years about anytime we were about to do a job.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's like honey. He just thought you were good.

Timothy Williams: How are things to take that about two weeks?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Looking wool. It's okay is apparently other carpets or…

Timothy Williams: That was just our little joke about…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: will take this job. So He starts buttering them up.

Timothy Williams: how long it would take the good old project. So …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: He's like,…

Timothy Williams: I think I've hit all my favorite scenes.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah, I talked with the shark Brothers.

Timothy Williams: I mean I made…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Good news. You won't have to sleep with him.

Timothy Williams: but I said, it's not a very long movie and the best parts of the movie to me is when they first move in and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Just it's clever. Yes.

Timothy Williams: just seeing all the things that fall, he hits the doorbell and it burns his finger and then he's like the door falls in. Yeah, then he puts the door back together.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I was wondering that too …

Timothy Williams: Then he comes inside and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: how much was scripted and…

Timothy Williams: close the door in the whole frame falls falls out,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: how much was actually ad lib…

Timothy Williams: is Just so perfect.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because some of the lines the way he says them and I mean it could just be the way it was directed,…

Timothy Williams: And then when they're moving the mattress to the floor,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: if it was scripted, but they feel more like they were just improved. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: so it doesn't sink in the bed. And they're convincing each other or she's convincing him not to give up on the house. It's gonna be It's gonna be great and you see the Thunder and the lightning outside then almost sudden you hear the rain come in and just huge holes in the ceiling. man.

Timothy Williams: Right exactly exactly.

Timothy Williams: we've learned a lot since then. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: he she's Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: In and…

Timothy Williams: she's a nice piece of wool. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: this was supposed to be a Christmas release, wasn't it?

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I wonder if it would have done better as a Christmas release.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: If that's true, but no,…

Timothy Williams: Right, right. mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I mean it feels more like a Christmas release rather than a spring release. I could have seen it doing a lot better, because clue came out Christmas of 85 as well.

Timothy Williams: Right just entertain them for a while.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And …

Cl3m3nsR0manus: so they're like that light-hearted kind of Comedy does pretty well there so I don't know why they pushed it back but I feel like it might have been a little more successful had it come out…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, look a little dinner light Dancing Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I wonder how much Tom Hanks got to ad lib some of those.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: if you want earlier.

Timothy Williams: I'm sure you got a few in probably.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's a typing. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mmm Yeah

Timothy Williams: 

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I'd be yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I know is one of my trivia things will kind of move the direct that direction but screenwriters low organz and Babalu Mandel who Splash wrote an uncredited draft of the script in the film's original trailer.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay.

Timothy Williams: They were credited along with the film's writer David guiller, but they weren't credited in the final movie. So with him working with them. I'm sure they probably Hey try this or give made game a couple extra jokes, maybe to throw in there too. So it has some of those kind of and they were big sitcom writers too. So it had some of those kind of sitcom kind of lines every once in a while or situations that worked so I can see that being there too.

Timothy Williams: Yes, it was religious most released at Christmas in the initial first trailer. It is scheduled to release Christmas 85, but they pushed it back to Spring of 86. So actually didn't come out until March the end of March.

Timothy Williams: it would have been better for your podcast because you could have covered it because it came out of Christmas. But yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm- Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: mmm

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: true It's a good title. Yeah.

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Timothy Williams: Mm- Yeah, sometimes it's just that when the release and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, I would have I wonder…

Timothy Williams: what's coming out the same time doesn't work.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because The Money Pit you hear I mean nowadays we know…

Timothy Williams: So yeah, I didn't dig too deep to find…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: what but I wonder if it would have been a better.

Timothy Williams: why I was pushed back but They're probably trying to keep it from competing.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: If that would have been a better title or…

Timothy Williams: Maybe they didn't want to compete with clue or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: even like I don't know the 11 or…

Timothy Williams: something like that. Because yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't know something.

Timothy Williams: we get the box office…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: You…

Timothy Williams: but it didn't have very stiff competition.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I wonder if the money pit title is…

Timothy Williams: It's opening weekend like the other new releases.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: what tanked it.

Timothy Williams: It was the top of the new releases that came out that week.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But I noticed yeah good.

Timothy Williams: It didn't debut at number one, but we'll get into it. So

Cl3m3nsR0manus: You know what you're getting into, Right? Yeah.

Timothy Williams: All So, let's sit a couple of scenes and trivia me think of us whether scenes if we need to don't have a whole lot here. I'll just hit the highlights. I thought this was Rich and Christina Makowski purchased the state of the house for the movie in 2002 not realizing…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: how much work the home needed. They said the houses definitely falling apart when we went from room to room. We definitely could have done the sequel the couple best millions in extensive Renovations and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: is currently selling the house for eight million dollars 4.5 million dollars less than they asked for in 2014.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I understand. Yeah. man. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I don't know when supposed…

Timothy Williams: but not recently…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: No,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: go ahead. Yeah. No,…

Timothy Williams: but yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's right.

Timothy Williams: but yeah, I could imagine he remodel in 86 or 85 and then Trying to resell it now. I'm sure it still needed some upkeep.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I know I have a Sinus infection. Yeah. Yeah,…

Timothy Williams: And then I already talked about the screenwriter.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it started antibiotics. I was like,…

Timothy Williams: So this was probably my favorite trivia.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I know Sister School in Ebert didn't like it at all.

Timothy Williams: The film's title in Germany was distinct.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think both give it one star each It was bad and…

Timothy Williams: It's not kazoo tour, which I'm sure that's not how you say it but translation is three is still too expensive.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I know most critics called it out for being a remake right I think is what I read.

Timothy Williams: I was really good title.

Timothy Williams: Free is still too expensive.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, you've yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I thought she was hilarious. Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: I don't know. I mean it just means I mean, yeah, I mean it seemed to familiar even with the poster you knew what kind of movie was gonna be. even the trailer was pretty much showing you what the movie was about. So

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think that does definitely have a huge play because I remember in the late 80s early 90s on Saturday Night Live and when it had Dana Carvey and Mike Myers and Adam Sandler and Kevin you like that whole cast. I loved that area. I thought it was amazing. It was so funny, but apparently most people didn't and so that's why they let a lot of those guys go and…

Timothy Williams: I don't know why it didn't hit the market like you think it would…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then they kind of started off, again, and it's like…

Timothy Williams: but I'll say it was still successful the critics didn't like it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but it was funny. What are you talking about? going back watching him as it was amazing.

Timothy Williams: It didn't make decent money.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So I wonder…

Timothy Williams: It wasn't a complete bomb.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: if it's just like certain age groups.

Timothy Williams: It didn't have the staying power or…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Appreciate it more. I don't know.

Timothy Williams: it's not as remembered as some of the other Splash and Big League of Their Own other, Tom Cruise movies at a time Tom Hanks movies on Tom Cruise. It's getting late. So.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's sold it, right.

Timothy Williams: All let's talk about box office. I'll go ahead I don't want to catch off. All right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's true.

Timothy Williams: I had to grab a water in my throat.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah,…

Timothy Williams: I could feel it in my throat getting scratchy.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's also true. But I know that they let they did Alexander good enough it. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Sinus thing going on. gosh.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Which I completely agree with.

Timothy Williams: no, yeah. Mm- Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I mean, he's definitely the funniest part of their

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they said it was the screwball comedy aspect of it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: All right.

Timothy Williams: They thought there was two. Yeah, I read a couple of different things like the screwball comedy. They didn't work and they compared it to Steven Spielberg's 1941. That wasn't a very successful for him either and they were like one person said Shelley long was it funny?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think three is one of my least favorite of them.

Timothy Williams: She was just cute which I don't know where they got that from…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: With the Mauser,…

Timothy Williams: because I thought she was funny. And they were like Tom Hanks is playing the same old somber character.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: and I don't know. I always preferred Captain Harris over Mauser. as an antagonist,…

Timothy Williams: He always plays and I didn't get that at…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but That's interesting.

Timothy Williams: But once again, it's what…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: What did it…

Timothy Williams: what movies they were wanting to see at that time versus…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: what did it do? overall at the box office.

Timothy Williams: what we were watching at the time, so

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

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Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: 

Timothy Williams: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's not bad. I mean it.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah, like I said I think for us I like and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right

Timothy Williams: being in Middle School. It was the screwball comedy the physical comedy that's what Drew Us in. Yeah, and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I wonder…

Timothy Williams: for adults that were going to say they'd seen all that stuff before it wasn't anything new for them and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: what other movies open in the weeks following because that could have all so that

Timothy Williams: as an adult it becomes a little predictable you kind of know what's gonna happen. Yeah, but critics are critics and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right exactly exactly.

Timothy Williams: they're gonna say what they're gonna say. So

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I will say I do like the music in this I thought it's a well and…

Timothy Williams: They praised him for his comedic performance for sure.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it's not and the composer is the same guy that did The Golden Child…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: which is another one of my all-time favorite. Yeah. And who's Harry Crumb,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: which is that one lover boy,…

Timothy Williams: All right. Let's talk about box office in critical reception as we mentioned before it was supposed to come out in Christmas 85.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: just a bunch of Ruthless People. He also did Purple Rain Against All Odds.

Timothy Williams: They pushed it back to Spring of 86. So it was released in North American theaters on March 28th.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So I mean,…

Timothy Williams: It was the highest grossing new release Landing in the number two spot at the box office.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah, He's not well-known. I think his name's like me, Michelle Colombia, but

Timothy Williams: It just couldn't Dethrone Police Academy 3 back in training from the number one spot for its second week. So

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's not well known but he does good work for what he's has to do. So. Because I love The Golden Child. it's

Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mm-hmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's another one. They showed on HBO a lot. So what a ton,…

Timothy Williams: Yep.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: .

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah. I said I want the night.

Timothy Williams: Let me go back. I didn't put that down.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I have a question for you.

Timothy Williams: Let's see.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: If let's say that it wasn't Tom Hanks and Shelley Long. Let's say you were recasting this with other eighties actors.

Timothy Williams: So the estimated budget was 18.5 million dollars.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Who would you use?

Timothy Williams: And it made 5.3 million is opening weekend. It grossed in the US and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think John Candy would have done really well and Tom hanks's role as well.

Timothy Williams: Canada 37 million and a worldwide gross of all just shy of 55 million so it wasn't considered a bomb. It was considered a commercially successful movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: that's also true.

Timothy Williams: It just didn't have the critics. It just wasn't a big hit on the critics,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: mmm

Timothy Williams: and I know they just quickly faded you to kind of faded and obscurity.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Chevy Chase,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I was looking at that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: definitely yeah.

Timothy Williams: Let me go back to

Timothy Williams: This is why we edit our podcast. The Money Pit Box Office Mojo

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But he definitely have more of an edge to him. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah. …

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: this is when he was doing Johnny dangerously and Mr. Mom and gung-ho. So yeah.

Timothy Williams: really? Okay. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, I could see that I'd be fun. I feel like Shelley Long's character would be a little bit harder to cast.

Timothy Williams: wow. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Mmm Yeah

Cl3m3nsR0manus: mmm

Timothy Williams: really?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, that one's harder.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay, just…

Timothy Williams: Okay.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because it's years.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's fun. man.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah. I haven't seen that one in a while. We watched it on TV probably.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Seven years ago, maybe six or seven years ago.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I mean that actually reminds me…

Timothy Williams: Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then what about…

Timothy Williams: yeah. I think that's…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: if you did Steve Martin and…

Timothy Williams: how I watched it. I think I saw that one on HBO. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Lily Tomlin like reprising, again man with rains or one of those.

Timothy Williams: All right. Sure.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah, Gilda Radner. Yeah, I like that.

Timothy Williams: mmm

Timothy Williams: that's tough other 80s actors.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. That would have been a lot of I agree. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I was just thinking about it who else could have played this? And I couldn't really put my finger on it.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. I don't think of him or for the physical comedy as much though.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And I could see all the bad stuff happening to Billy Crystal, but I think he would just laugh it off.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Steve Martin Maybe

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't think you would have played into the comedy and tragedy part of as much. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: yeah, I could see Chevy Chase because I mean that's kind…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: right Yeah.

Timothy Williams: but Yeah, You kind of the same as Griswold the company,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: slapstick kind of stuff.

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Timothy Williams: Yeah, yeah. Michael Keaton would be interesting. Is in this comedy roles?

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: For the female though. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's another one. I love.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's some stiff competition.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think for her care to be in the orchestra and being more kind of the proper kind of

Timothy Williams: It's hard for me not to say Kirstie Alley just…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Okay. Wow.

Timothy Williams: because I know she replaced her first years. Yeah, it's the first person that pops in my head.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: I could see Bette Midler kind of somewhat in that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And yeah.

Timothy Williams: too maybe a little too old at that point for that but

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Roll it in Clovis. Got to love it. It's

Timothy Williams: yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: what if this was a Gene Wilder and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't know that one that's Okay Critters nice.

Timothy Williams: And Builder Radner together that would have been fun.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So maybe moving it was the right move because I guess it didn't make three times its budget so Yeah good for them.

Timothy Williams: That would have been a lot of fun.

Timothy Williams: Good question,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: But I guess I don't know…

Timothy Williams: man, you do have a podcast where you ask questions like that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: what it was but something just people forgot about this movie.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: A legend.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: nice

Timothy Williams: Mm- Yeah that little harder to put that he would have been more with the quips and not so much of the physical comedy like his reactionary stuff would have been there.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's big. Yeah, yeah. good job emblem.

Timothy Williams: So All right to your box office question. So the other movies that came out the same week was April Fool's Day which landed a number four and Lucas and number 11 so other movies in the top 10 gung-ho,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right down the middle. Yeah. I wouldn't either yeah.

Timothy Williams: which is another forgotten eighties flick with Michael Keaton pretty and Pretty in Pink The Color Purple Out of Africa, so it's up against some Doesn't stiff competition Down and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: they

Timothy Williams: Out in Beverly Hills, so then let's go the next week. What came out so Police Academy 3 stayed in number one the following week money stayed at number two. Gung-ho stated number three, so there wasn't a big change the following week. That's interesting. I don't see any new releases. I'm sorry pow the escape from Canon films debuted David number 13, so that's where that was at. Yeah. Then the week after that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I agree because it's not like a strict comedy right…

Timothy Williams: Didn't move to number one the following week and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: because towards the end he accuses her of having an affair and…

Timothy Williams: police academy three fell to number two. The only new releases that week was the band of the hand at number three offbeat,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: then they get into this crazy fight and they're split. I mean it almost turns into a drama for a little bit,…

Timothy Williams: which was a Walt Disney movie.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: like that that's 20 minutes.

Timothy Williams: I don't really know that one.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's really intense.

Timothy Williams: Yeah Critters was number six.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And then of course they make up because it had good foundation like they say so I mean it is strange because it's not just pure Caddyshack.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It almost like a comedy drama,…

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but I would agree.

Timothy Williams: it's state. Yeah, it was number three the following week it Legend debutant Number One Murphy's Law debut debuted number two,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: It's somewhere in the 80s for me as well. I think if it had been funny all the way through. Might actually have put it lower I think for me.

Timothy Williams: but money pidden Police Academy three were kind of and…

Timothy Williams: gung-ho all three of those stayed together for Those next couple of weeks.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Just you something about that little edge of.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: of drama that kind of brings it up much so

Timothy Williams: So yeah, so moving it then might have looked probably wasn't a good idea. once again, hey, it's date stating. The top five for several weeks is making good money. So

Cl3m3nsR0manus: it wasn't as funny. Yeah. right

Timothy Williams: So critical reception Rotten Tomatoes has a 50% on the Tomato Meter a 58 audience score IMDb has its 6.4 out of 10 with viewers and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's right. always

Timothy Williams: a 49 on Metacritic. So Pretty middle of the road all around.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: yeah.

Timothy Williams: I wouldn't great at that low. it's gonna be in the 80s eight out of 10 for me. it's highly watchable. It's fun. It's not the greatest comedy. It's not it but it's still fun. And once again for them Nostalgia part and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love that the Alexander good enough was in two movies with Ode to Joy.

Timothy Williams: and just something that's enjoyable. I think it fits in that spot for me.

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Cl3m3nsR0manus: So good. no But I did think it was funny that …

Timothy Williams: right

Cl3m3nsR0manus: he's doing that and then the band rocks out. He's just conducting Brave and triumphantly. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Right, right.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: April girls

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Or it is a Debbie Reynolds?

Timothy Williams: Yeah. yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I don't remember no.

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: All No. No, I really don't think so. Yeah, I agree with that.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Just yeah people pay to do that.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, I appreciate them more as an adult. I think as a kid once they had the big fight it was like it wasn't as fun anymore.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's right. let's please demolish this.

Timothy Williams: It's like I'm just ready for the end at that point, which it doesn't drag too long. But we've seen enough romantic comedies now to know what's gonna happen. There's gonna be an argument. There's gonna be a misunderstanding and then they're gonna realize I didn't sleep with him.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Let's see.

Timothy Williams: He'd lied to me that I was like,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: So I think by the time this drops I will have just released my Clue episode.

Timothy Williams: I was gonna forgive you anyway, the whole reconciliation but I think we stayed just…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That was a December, Christmas release and…

Timothy Williams: because we loved this and you'll appreciate the musician…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I got to talk with the whodunit documentary really cool.

Timothy Williams: but we wanted to watch them because we loved the classical beginning of Ode to Joy that then the rock band came in and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I learned a lot got some other things coming up,…

Timothy Williams: we're like, Rocko,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but mostly I'm getting ready for Christmas in July.

Timothy Williams: music should be the time, so it's such a short little spot.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's like my next big but I've got Hollywood Squares coming up.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, exactly.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Let's see.

Timothy Williams: Yeah. That was definitely his theme song for sure.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I got down Home Country Christmas the Dolly Parton coming up and the store. I don't know if you remember that cup. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's a good one with

Timothy Williams: Yeah makes sense.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: nice nice.

Timothy Williams: But they're bringing their Two Worlds together. the classical is her side. He's all the crazy rock bands that he's befriended and worked with now. So yeah.

Timothy Williams: So, Yeah, whatever they changed it to.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah. Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Debbie Reynolds might let him use it. I don't know. We'll see.

Timothy Williams: All I think we've covered this one pretty well. I think we've given the money pit. it's fair and just do as a movie that should not be forgotten anymore.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: And then some other things I have so last season.

Timothy Williams: It needs to need make its way back into the Love of All eighties.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I went more obscured this season. I'm going a little more mainstream. So I got stuff like the Smurfs. friends deck the halls with wacky walls.

Timothy Williams: I'm sure 80s flick lovers love it already…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I think we're doing an episode on vice versa that will be recording soon and…

Timothy Williams: because it's one of them remember but those who missed out should go back and watch it and…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as well.

Timothy Williams: enjoy it for all of its 80s, which it doesn't really date itself too much…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: We'll be talking about stuff that people might actually know about It's all gonna be good.

Timothy Williams: if you think about it because I mean some of those same things could happen,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yeah, it's so fun.

Timothy Williams: in a house today. I'm sure we watch enough hgtv's episodes. Now that stuff happens more than we think usually by the people are trying to fix it then the people on it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Right, right.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, we want to see it demolished now. That's how you get it done.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I can't wait to talk deck the halls with wacky walls,…

Timothy Williams: All right, Jerry would tell it what's going on with totally right Christmas. So I'm gonna drop this probably around the middle of the month.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: but very few people remember that so well,…

Timothy Williams: So in the next two weeks,…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: all right. I'll let me put Smurfs first. so

Timothy Williams: I guess so so what you got coming up on totally rad Christmas that you want to tell people about

Cl3m3nsR0manus: exactly

Timothy Williams: very cool

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yep, That's really why I do.

Timothy Williams: Mmm, yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: I love it.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Thank you.

Timothy Williams: mmm

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Timothy Williams: the storm. Yeah, yeah.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Yep. Yeah, that'll be fun.

Timothy Williams: That's one of those episodes. I remember where I was when I watched that one for the first time. Yeah. Yes. That was good. I was a big ER fan. I every once in a while because it's something you can watch all the episodes on used to be able to watch them all on Hulu. It might be on one of the other streaming services. I'm like, I want to go back and watch it for the beginning but then I don't because I know it's gonna suck me in because I've done that before I've watched all 10 seasons, but it's such a good show. It's such a good show, especially when it first start. I mean it was still good through the end, but those first couple seasons were…

Cl3m3nsR0manus: Great. Let's yeah.

Timothy Williams: where when I was at his best so good stuff

Cl3m3nsR0manus: That's definitely thinking that my lawnmower broke a couple weeks ago and…

Timothy Williams: mmm

Cl3m3nsR0manus: My grass was super high and…

Timothy Williams: Yep.

Cl3m3nsR0manus: we went on vacation when I came back. I was just like whoa, that was the

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yeah.

Timothy Williams: Yes us podcasters. we tried to find that fine line between what does everybody tired of hearing about and what do they are? And what are the things that they haven't heard about and which people are gonna want to actually listen to so it's interesting to find out which, episodes people gravitate towards more than others. So

Timothy Williams: right, right.

Timothy Williams: Yeah, but that's kind of why did the Forgotten 80s looks like I know they may not be as well known as some of the bigger movies but they're still worth talking about and if it gives me an excuse to rewatch it then that's why I do this podcast this podcast just gives me an excuse to rewatch the movies that I haven't seen in a long time. Let's just be honest.

Timothy Williams: But honey, I have to watch The Money Pit again. I have an episode to record about it tonight.

Timothy Williams: All Jerry, thank you so much for joining. I've always a pleasure to have you always great to have you on the bus on the show. So I look forward to having you back. We got a few more coming up before the end of the year too. So he teaming up with some other host so

Timothy Williams: All right folks, that's a wrap on today's episode of the 80s flick flashback podcast. If you had as much fun as we did, please show us some love with an awesome review and a shiny five star rating on Apple podcast. Don't forget to hit that follow or subscribe button and spread the words all your 80s flick love and Pals got questions or just want to chat about your favorite flicks. You can reach out to us on Facebook Instagram and tiktok and if you're feeling super cool, why not support the show over buy me a coffee calm even a little as five bucks a month make some big difference plus you can totally rock some killer 80s flick flashback gear and original designs by checking out our online store at 80's flick flashback.com and tea public com for all the nostalgic swag. You can want. Thanks again for tuning in. I'm Tim Williams for the 80s flick flashback podcast home crap home.